K1TTT Technical Reference
Here it is guys, from ARRL HQ. I sent the following message and
This 3rd Party argument raises it head about every year or so.
Here is a
reply that follows my message. Looks like as long as the op has his
liscence, he can talk to anyone, anywhere under the higher class
>Subject: Contesting/3rd party question
>Date: Wednesday, March 05, 1997 1:47PM
>I have a question regarding Multi Single operating in contests and
>liscence class of the participants. Here is the scenario.
>The contest group is using an extra class callsign for the event, but
>not all the operators are extra class. Can the "non extra"
>outside their liscence priviliges while using the extra callsign?
>if they can, do they have to limit their contacts to countries with
>which the US holds a valid 3rd party aggrement?
>If this is not the appropriate person to recieve this message, please
>let me knwo who to send it to or foward it to them for me. Thanks
Subject: CORRECTION: Contesting/3rd party questio
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:16:00 -0500
From: "Hogerty, Tom, KC1J" <email@example.com>
To: ke1fo <firstname.lastname@example.org>
On further investigation I found that my original response to you is incorrect.
The correct answer is yes, it is legal. It is also legal for the "3rd
party" to pass a message as well. Note the end of Section 97.115(a)(2)
"This prohibition does not apply to a message for any third party
who is eligible to be a control operator of the station". While not
clear from this rule, it is clear from the Report & Order that implemented
the new rules in 1989 that if the "3rd party" is a
licensed amateur (regardless of license class or country of issue) the
international 3rd party prohibition does not apply.
Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.
Tom Hogerty, KC1J
copy of a letter posted to the relector by KI6X which should squash things
for a while. I have asked the FCC about contesting and third party
operation many years ago and got basically the same response, although
is worded better than I could probably remember it.
February 8, 1994
>Dan R. Violette, KI6X
>1122 E. Sail Ave.
>Orange, CA 92665
> ARRL Vice President Tom Frenaye, K1KI, shared your recent
>comments with us for comment. I am addressing the legal
issues; the CAC
>issues need to be addressed separately.
> First, "A station may only be operated in the manner
and to the extent
>permitted by the privileges authorized for the class of operator
>by the control operator." [97.105(b)]. Thus, a Technician
isn't eligible to be
>the control operator of the station while it is transmitting
on twenty meters.
> A Technician, however, is eligible to be "a control
operator" of any
>station. This is true even though he or she cannot act as
>operator at times when the station is being operated on frequencies
>or her license class.
> The Commission specifically acknowledged in the Part 97
>in 1989 that messages sent between amateur stations on behalf
>amateur licensee are not third party traffic. See,
the Report and Order,
>Docket 88-139, 4 FCC Rcd. 4719 (1989), at paragraphs 39 and 42.
The FCC, at
>the League's request, concurred with the prior holding of the
>Kingdom's Department of Trade and Industry, that "the passing
of messages on
>behalf of other licensed radio amateurs (at home and abroad)
>contravene the prohibition against third party traffic..."
FCC codified that
>provision (though not clearly enough, really), at Section 97.115(a)
>rules, saying that "The prohibition [on international
third party traffic
>with countries with which the United States does not have a third
>traffic agreement] does not apply to a message for any third party
>eligible to be a control operator of the station." Notice
that says "a"
>control operator, not "the" control operator.
> Therefore, while an unlicensed person operating with a
>operator, is limited to communications only with the United States
>and with those stations located in countries with which the United
>a third party traffic agreement. Any licensed amateur can
operate any station
>and participate in international communications as long as there
is a control
>operator on hand who is licensed to operate on the frequency
being used. So,
>a Technician, for example, could operate at a contest station
on 20 meters and
>contact any station in any country as long as there was a control
>present who is eligible to operate on 20 meters.
>I hope this helps clear the air on the legal aspects of the issue.
>issues should be addressed through your Division's CAC representative.
>can be of further assistance, please let me know. 73.
John C. Hennessee, KJ4KB
Regulatory Information Specialist